Galatians 2:20
I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.
Ephesians 4:22-24
...that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit,
Philippians 3:8
More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ,
Colossians 3:5
Therefore consider the members of your earthly body as dead to immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed, which amounts to idolatry.
Luke 9:23
...If anyone wishes to come after me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross daily and follow me.
John 12:24
Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit.
Luke 9:23-24
...If anyone wishes to come after me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross daily and follow me.
Romans 6:11
Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Romans 12:1-2
Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship.
1 Peter 4:1-2
Therefore, since Christ has suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same purpose, because he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin,
Galatians 5:24
Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Romans 8:12-13
So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh...
Romans 6:11-14
Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
John 3:30
He must increase, but I must decrease.
Titus 2:12
...instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age,
1 Peter 4:2
...so as to live the rest of the time in the flesh no longer for the lusts of men, but for the will of God.
Luke 14:33
...anyone among you who does not forsake everything he has cannot be my disciple.
Matthew 10:38
And he who does not take his cross and follow after me is not worthy of me.
Ephesians 4:22
...that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit,
Galatians 6:14
But may it never be that I would boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
Romans 6:8
Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him,
Romans 6:6-7
...knowing this, that our old self was crucified with him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;
Ephesians 4:22-23
...that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit,
Matthew 16:25
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
Saturday, February 10, 2018
Friday, February 9, 2018
Brahman as Unknown God
I found what seems to be a succinct summary of the essence of much of Indian philosophy [1]:
Yet, he would say, we cannot connect to this mind without the intermediary Jesus, the Savior. The Unknown God decided to reveal his great love of humanity by this means. That mind is far beyond our rational capacities, whether the mind is called Brahman or Yahweh.
Ultimately, Brahman is in fact one's true self, we are told. This idea runs parallel to Jesus, quoting scripture, saying "you are gods" (hence strongly implying "you are God") and to saying that he would bring to his right mind, or wake up, the person who turns to him. Those who turn to him are, says Paul, junior partners in Christ, welded into a spiritual oneness. All share the Holy Spirit, an inexhaustible fount of wisdom and cheer. In other words, they share in God's mind. So if believers have God's spirit, they begin to awaken -- sometimes very slowly -- to their true, higher selves. They are returning to the state of perfect oneness from which their angels have fallen.
Also, we are told, that in Vedanta recognizing oneself as atman is at the same time recognizing one's true self as Brahman. "An individual person is really just one aspect, one of infinitely many transient manifestations, of the One." Even so, there is plenty of room for interpretation as to whether Brahman is to be considered as the One who created those manifestations, or is identical to them, or is incomprehensibly different from them.
So, I suppose many Buddhists and some Vedantists turn away from the concept of vast, unfathomable mind. Yet are they not reaching toward superior mind or consciousness for their destinies? Why should such greatly enlightened minds be the pinnacle of the cosmos? It seems to me that that would mean that something that is less than the cosmos would still be superior to it, even if, perhaps, only temporarily. (Do you hear an echo of the ontological proof of God's existence in that argument?)
Yet, we must be careful here because of the apparent difference, for Buddhists, between mind and consciousness. In Buddhist parlance, the idea is to empty one's mind or self, obtaining the state of the anatman, which essentially means no-mind . That is to say, the Buddhists equate the human mind with the self, which needs to go away in order for the person to reach a state of bliss. From my perspective, both the Vedantist and Buddhist ideas are summed up by the New Testament injunction that we must die to self, to lose our carnal mind (stop being a meat-head).
It should be noted that the authors say that Buddhists, in general, view Brahman and atman (true self) as illusions. Yet, if there is no ground of being, what is it that Buddhists are attempting to reach? How can any kind of eventuality exist without a ground of being?
Now, the Buddhist aim of enlightenment, either in this life and this body, or in a future life and body, yields this puzzle:
What is it that will suffer or experience bliss in the future? If the basic Buddhist theory holds that the objects of all desires are transitory, that the mind and soul are both temporarily existent illusions, that nothing lasts forever, then why desire a state of non-mind bliss, that supposedly implies an end to suffering? "You" won't be "there" to enjoy it anyway. Similarly, why worry about karma (you reap what you sow) in a subsequent life if it isn't really you proceeding to that next life?
So then, a Buddhist would desire to share in the bliss of Nirvana. He or she does yearn for some continuity of existence between his or her present state and the future. Of course, Buddhists will attribute such a contradiction to the inadequacy, when it comes to sublime mysteries, of human logic and language.
(We acknowledge that the Northern -- Mahayana -- school favors that devotees strive to become boddhisatvas, or enlightened beings, who delay attainment of Nirvana in order to help others become free of the bondage of suffering, whereas the Southern -- Theravada -- school favors Nirvana first followed by the helping of others. In either case, our puzzle remains.)
We can draw a parallel here based on these scriptures:
Psalm 46:10
1 Kings 19
Mark 4
A key difference between the Christian and Eastern outlooks is the assurance that Jesus will assist the believer to die to self (granting the fact that it doesn't always appear that very many believers actually do so).
Matthew 16
https://zion78.blogspot.com/2018/02/we-must-die-to-self.html
or go to the page from which I took the list:
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Death-To-Self
The spiritual seekers of ancient India had had some important revelations. Yet, in Christian eyes, they were yearning for the big revelation that did not occur until the resurrection of Jesus.
Now, turning to the last sentence of the passage near the top of this post, we observe that Jesus himself pulled in those of low estate, who were acutely conscious of their need and not so inclined to talk themselves out of drinking in the water of life. Even today, as through the centuries, very strong belief flourishes best among the poor.
Matthew 11:
1. A Short History of Philosophy by Robert C. Solomon and Kathleen M. Higgins (Oxford 1996).
In Vedanta (as in Heraclitus and some of the other pre-Socratic philosophers), Brahman is the ground, the value, and the essence of everything. This ultimate unity is therefore a coincidence of opposites (hot and cold, dry and wet, consciousness and world), which is incomprehensible to us. Brahman is "beyond all names and forms," and Brahman (like Yahweh) is a name for the unnameable, a reference to what cannot be understood or analyzed. (Brahman is always "not this, not that.")The apostle Paul would very likely have identified Brahman as the "unknown God" -- the utterly mysterious mind behind and within all existence.
But Brahman can be experienced, in meditation and mysticism, and Brahman is ultimately identical to one's true self (atman). It is thus the awareness of Brahman, most importantly, that is every person's supreme personal good. One of the obstacles to this good, especially among the learned, is the illusion of understanding.
Yet, he would say, we cannot connect to this mind without the intermediary Jesus, the Savior. The Unknown God decided to reveal his great love of humanity by this means. That mind is far beyond our rational capacities, whether the mind is called Brahman or Yahweh.
[Yahweh: "He is," hence suggesting "I am." Thence Jesus: "I am salvation" or "I save."]Jesus is the human face of the Unknown God, or Brahman. As the Son, Jesus is the projection of God into the world of humans.
Ultimately, Brahman is in fact one's true self, we are told. This idea runs parallel to Jesus, quoting scripture, saying "you are gods" (hence strongly implying "you are God") and to saying that he would bring to his right mind, or wake up, the person who turns to him. Those who turn to him are, says Paul, junior partners in Christ, welded into a spiritual oneness. All share the Holy Spirit, an inexhaustible fount of wisdom and cheer. In other words, they share in God's mind. So if believers have God's spirit, they begin to awaken -- sometimes very slowly -- to their true, higher selves. They are returning to the state of perfect oneness from which their angels have fallen.
Also, we are told, that in Vedanta recognizing oneself as atman is at the same time recognizing one's true self as Brahman. "An individual person is really just one aspect, one of infinitely many transient manifestations, of the One." Even so, there is plenty of room for interpretation as to whether Brahman is to be considered as the One who created those manifestations, or is identical to them, or is incomprehensibly different from them.
So, I suppose many Buddhists and some Vedantists turn away from the concept of vast, unfathomable mind. Yet are they not reaching toward superior mind or consciousness for their destinies? Why should such greatly enlightened minds be the pinnacle of the cosmos? It seems to me that that would mean that something that is less than the cosmos would still be superior to it, even if, perhaps, only temporarily. (Do you hear an echo of the ontological proof of God's existence in that argument?)
Yet, we must be careful here because of the apparent difference, for Buddhists, between mind and consciousness. In Buddhist parlance, the idea is to empty one's mind or self, obtaining the state of the anatman, which essentially means no-mind . That is to say, the Buddhists equate the human mind with the self, which needs to go away in order for the person to reach a state of bliss. From my perspective, both the Vedantist and Buddhist ideas are summed up by the New Testament injunction that we must die to self, to lose our carnal mind (stop being a meat-head).
It should be noted that the authors say that Buddhists, in general, view Brahman and atman (true self) as illusions. Yet, if there is no ground of being, what is it that Buddhists are attempting to reach? How can any kind of eventuality exist without a ground of being?
Now, the Buddhist aim of enlightenment, either in this life and this body, or in a future life and body, yields this puzzle:
What is it that will suffer or experience bliss in the future? If the basic Buddhist theory holds that the objects of all desires are transitory, that the mind and soul are both temporarily existent illusions, that nothing lasts forever, then why desire a state of non-mind bliss, that supposedly implies an end to suffering? "You" won't be "there" to enjoy it anyway. Similarly, why worry about karma (you reap what you sow) in a subsequent life if it isn't really you proceeding to that next life?
So then, a Buddhist would desire to share in the bliss of Nirvana. He or she does yearn for some continuity of existence between his or her present state and the future. Of course, Buddhists will attribute such a contradiction to the inadequacy, when it comes to sublime mysteries, of human logic and language.
(We acknowledge that the Northern -- Mahayana -- school favors that devotees strive to become boddhisatvas, or enlightened beings, who delay attainment of Nirvana in order to help others become free of the bondage of suffering, whereas the Southern -- Theravada -- school favors Nirvana first followed by the helping of others. In either case, our puzzle remains.)
We can draw a parallel here based on these scriptures:
Psalm 46:10
10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.Being still here, I suggest, implies a deep, meditative awareness, letting our transitory thoughts and desires subside so as to permit the "ground of being" to be heard.
1 Kings 19
9 And [Elijah] came thither unto a cave, and lodged there; and, behold, the word of the Lord came to him, and he said unto him, What doest thou here, Elijah?At the core of existence is God. He is not "in" the phenomena, even though he causes them. (I note that there is a distinction between the "word of the Lord" that asked Elijah why he was hiding in a cave and the "still small voice." I suggest that Elijah was led to commune with God at a deeper level, at the "ground of being" if you like.
10 And he said, I have been very jealous for the Lord God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.
11 And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the Lord. And, behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the Lord; but the Lord was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the Lord was not in the earthquake:
12 And after the earthquake a fire; but the Lord was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice.
Mark 4
37 And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full.The world's phenomena, that we take to be so real, are subject to the human mind when it is in accord with God's mind.
38 And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say to him, Master, care you not that we perish?
39 And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
40 And he said to them, Why are you so fearful? how is it that you have no faith? 41 And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?
A key difference between the Christian and Eastern outlooks is the assurance that Jesus will assist the believer to die to self (granting the fact that it doesn't always appear that very many believers actually do so).
Matthew 16
25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.For a list of other supporting scriptures, please see:
https://zion78.blogspot.com/2018/02/we-must-die-to-self.html
or go to the page from which I took the list:
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Death-To-Self
The spiritual seekers of ancient India had had some important revelations. Yet, in Christian eyes, they were yearning for the big revelation that did not occur until the resurrection of Jesus.
Now, turning to the last sentence of the passage near the top of this post, we observe that Jesus himself pulled in those of low estate, who were acutely conscious of their need and not so inclined to talk themselves out of drinking in the water of life. Even today, as through the centuries, very strong belief flourishes best among the poor.
Matthew 11:
28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
1. A Short History of Philosophy by Robert C. Solomon and Kathleen M. Higgins (Oxford 1996).
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